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The term "hairy arms" is used in the world of graphic design and illustration. But what does that mean? Melissa Block talks to graphic designer Jessica Frease about the industry lingo. MELISSA BLOCK, HOST: When Jessica Frease was in art school, she kept hearing a strange phrase - hairy arms. It's one that's followed her throughout her career in graphic design.